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Williams Goggles

Zach Blume ’02 uses the phrase “Williams Goggles” in his description of a recent trip to Las Vegas.

Personally, I was wearing the thick pair of Williams Goggles I picked up during my days as an undergrad and thought she was the gorgeous.

Blume’s implication — that the average female Eph is less attractive than a typical female of the same age — is clear enough.

This was a common topic of discussion 20 years ago. I wouldn’t have expected it to have lasted this long.[The belief or the reality?–ed There is no upside for me in taking a position on this. So true! — ed]

Leaving aside whether this was true 20 years ago (certainly the female members of my entry were unimpressed with the argument), it is an empirical question whether it is true today. [You said this to women in your entry!? — ed I was an idiot.]

This is a perfect question for one of David Zimmerman’s thesis students, or even for a math major with an interest in statistics. Actually, there are two questions. First, is this belief widely held? Blume’s comment makes me think it is. Second, is it true? There are a variety of ways to test this and some subtle mistakes to avoid. (You wouldn’t want to ask male Ephs to judge the attractiveness of current Ephs, for example.)

One approach might be to use pictures from a first year facebook from a few years ago in comparison to pictures from, say, a local high school.

My personal opinion, as husband of ’89, brother-in-law of ’98 and father of ’18 amd ’21 is that Eph women are the most beautiful women on the planet. [You are shameless! –ed]

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#1 Comment By Eric On March 22, 2004 @ 12:51 pm

I definitely said this many times, as did my friends.
While I do feel that there is some validity there, I should also say that my fiancee is class of ’00, so I obviously didn’t find too much validity there :)

I have only ever heard guys say it – perhaps because the women were polite enough to not blurt it out around us. Or perhaps the fact that women look for more than just physical traits downplays the issue on a campus full of the future successful people of America.

Or perhaps the fact that there is so much heavy drinking on campus, the Williams Goggles and the Beer Goggles go hand in hand.

These days, I prefer to make broad generalizations about entire countries and not just my fellow classmates – America in general has a bunch of fatties.
That’s right, I said it.

#2 Comment By Shimon Rura On March 22, 2004 @ 1:22 pm

Williams had (and has) the most beautiful, interesting, smart, wonderful women in the universe. The only problem is that the guys that get them tend to gloat a bit much…

#3 Comment By Aidan On March 22, 2004 @ 2:05 pm


you are so whipped. The Mrs. going to make you sleep on the couch if you didn’t say that? Please.

What’s better than any of this, frankly, is Zach’s brilliant phrasing: “thought she was the gorgeous.” That just makes me happy.


#4 Comment By David Kane On March 22, 2004 @ 7:32 pm


Eph Babes dig bloggers. You are welcome to join us anytime.


Being whipped by an Eph Babe is not for the faint of heart. Just so you know.

#5 Comment By Noah Smith-Drelich ’07 On March 26, 2004 @ 3:41 pm

The perception of the lesser-attractive Williams woman still exists today.

That said…the only guys I’ve ever heard mention it are guys who are extremely sexually frustrated, and thus, extremely biased. As 40% (or so says Morty) of Williams students get married to other Williams students I think it’s pretty self-evident that when push comes to shove, Williams guys truly love Williams gals.