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50%?

This claim was just added to Wikipedia.

Approximately 50% of Williams’ students compete on at least one varsity, junior varsity, or formal club team.

True? Citation? I don’t find this implausible (and much would depend on how membership on club teams like rugby and WUFO was counts). Who knows the facts? And what would the percentage be if we included intra-murals?

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#1 Comment By ’10 On April 20, 2007 @ 3:50 pm

I’ve heard 30-35% percent for varsity sports, and when you consider that WUFO alone probably accounts for another 10%, a 50% total doesn’t sound implausible.

#2 Comment By hwc On April 20, 2007 @ 4:13 pm

According to the federal filings, 34.8% of Williams students (686 students) were on at least one varsity sport roster on the first day of each sport’s season in 2005/2006.

This does not include club sports or the numerous JV teams.

BTW, the source for the 50% number is Williams own website:

http://www.williams.edu/admission/studentlife_athletics.php

Roughly half of Williams’ students compete on at least one varsity, junior varsity, or formal club team.

And:

Percentage of Students who compete in varsity, JV, or club sports
50%

Followed immediately by (perhaps for the benefit of some math challenged low-band tips):

Percentage of Students who do not compete in varsity, JV, or club sports
50%

#3 Comment By Ronit On April 20, 2007 @ 4:23 pm

Williams says exactly this in the viewbook (at least they did when they sent me a viewbook back in 2002)

#4 Comment By Anonymous On April 20, 2007 @ 5:40 pm

WUFO’s a club sport?!

#5 Comment By ’08 On April 20, 2007 @ 8:48 pm

For the 2006/2007 school year, there are 278 students who participate in intercollegiate club sport “seriously” (show up to at least 3/4 of all practices) and another 97 who are affiliated with the club sport (go to at least two athletic-events a month). These numbers are self-reported, so they may be high, but they’re not egregious. They also don’t include the non-competitive club sports such as gymnastics or figure skating.

The frisbee team is the biggest club sport, with 89 “serious” members. Rugby is the next highest, with 65.

#6 Comment By David On April 20, 2007 @ 9:12 pm

Could you post a link to that list here (or the whole list itself)? We love detailed data!

Note that the 278 is less than 5% of the population and some/many/most of those students also play a jv or varsity sport. (And some play two clubs.) So, if 33% play varsity and, at most, 5% play club, then 12% play jv? I doubt it! Take out all the double-counts and it would seem that the varsity/jv/club population is a lot closer to 40% than 50%.

#7 Comment By frank uible On April 20, 2007 @ 10:01 pm

Why are we scrapping over the difference between 40% and 50%?

#8 Comment By hwc On April 21, 2007 @ 12:16 am

Note that the 278 is less than 5% of the population.

Huh?

278/1950 = 14.3%, give or take.

#9 Comment By Ronit On April 21, 2007 @ 12:55 pm

WUFO’s a club sport?!

Yes. So is rugby, and probably cycling.

#10 Comment By Anonymous On April 22, 2007 @ 12:40 pm

And water polo (no coach, but do very well).

#11 Comment By Anonymous On April 23, 2007 @ 7:30 pm

The numbers I have are (I collected it myself from teams, so I can’t cite anything).

EQUESTRIAN TEAM 12
SAILING 30
MEN’S RUGBY 30
WOMEN’S RUGBY 35
MEN’S WATERPOLO 16
WOMEN’S WATERPOLO 20
MEN’S ULTIMATE FRISBEE 57
WOMEN’S ULTIMATE FRISBEE 32
CYCLING 24
MEN’S VOLLEYBALL 12
FENCING 10

There’s a debate tonight about whether club sports should get more money… it should be interesting.

#12 Comment By hwc On April 23, 2007 @ 7:36 pm

Williams’ athletic budget is already the highest per student of any DIV III liberal arts college in the United States. It would be very difficult to justify higher levels of spending.

#13 Comment By nMo On April 23, 2007 @ 8:56 pm

hwc, I don’t know about that. Ideally Williams should be the best funded school per student in every endeavor.

If there is a demand and need for higher spending in club sports than I think the College would be doing a disservice to its students if it discounted such an increase out of hand due to its already impresive athletic spending.

#14 Comment By hwc On April 23, 2007 @ 9:09 pm

[quote]Ideally Williams should be the best funded school per student in every endeavor…[/quote]

Maybe.

Williams currently has the fourth or fifth highest per student endowment of the liberal arts colleges (I think Amherst may have moved just ahead).

Williams already spends signficantly more on athletics than most of its national competitors — twice as much. So you are in a bit of zero-sum game viz-a-viz the competition. In other words, if you spend even more on athletics, you have to spend less in some other area.

At some point, Morty has to ask whether increasing athletics spending could possibly increase the appeal of Williams. It’s already solidly known as the sports school among high-end LACs, so I don’t know where the upside is.