Thu 15 Nov 2018
Safety Dance Update, 3
Posted by David Dudley Field '25 under Safety Dance at 6:53 am
Two new filings (Statement of Facts and Memo for Motion of Summary Judgment) in the Safety Dance case provide an occasion to revisit the biggest sexual assault case at Williams since Brackinridge or Gensheimer/Foster. Day 3.
The change Sandstrom refers to concerns affirmative consent. “No,” obviously, means “No.” But, just a few year ago, it was assumed that, if someone did not want to do something, they had an obligation to say so. Now, the standard is one of “affirmative consent.” It is every Eph’s obligation to ask for, and receive, permission for every sexual act. John Doe was, officially, thrown out of Williams, not for ignoring Jane Roe’s protestations but for (allegedly) not ensuring that Jane Roe said “Yes.”
This is very bit as insane as it sounds. Consider:
How many times has Maud Mandel sexually assaulted her husband since arriving at Williams?
I am 100% serious in asking this question. Consider:
The Williams College Code of Conduct requires affirmative consent for all sexual activity.
Consent means that at the time of the sexual contact, words and conduct indicate freely given approval or agreement, without coercion, by all participants in the sexual contact. Consent may not be inferred from silence or passivity.
Williams also defines “sexual activity” very broadly, as “any sexual touching, however slight, with any body part or object, by any person upon any other person . . .”
So, if Maud Mandel, without asking (and receiving!) explicit permission, has ever kissed her husband goodbye in the morning, or given him an affectionate pat on the behind as he walked out the door, or . . . anything really — then she has committed sexual assault and should, like John Doe, be kicked out of Williams.
This is, of course, nonsense. No normal person thinks that people, like Maud Mandel, in a relationship need to get permission for every single sexual activity ahead of time. But that is still the official policy at Williams, a policy which is used as a stick the ruin the lives of men — many of them poor and/or minority — much less powerful than Maud Mandel.
If John Doe deserves to be kicked out of Williams, than Maud Mandel is guilty of sexual assault.
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frank uible says:
Surprise! Double standard at work for the powerful.
November 15th, 2018 at 10:05 amfendertweed says:
Is that a shark I see jumping in the background? …
November 15th, 2018 at 10:47 amWhitney Wilson '90 says:
At this risk of fanning the flames of the absurd, I don’t believe the affirmative consent standard necessarily requires a “Can I do this” followed by a “Yes.” See for example, this definition:
Blockquote:
November 15th, 2018 at 11:16 amJohnny says:
I found a third document filed recently. see it here https://www.scribd.com/document/392995755/P-Reply-to-D-Response-in-Opposition
November 15th, 2018 at 1:30 pmJohnny says:
And another
https://www.scribd.com/document/391825473/John-Doe-s-Opposition-to-Williams-College-s-Motion-for-Summary-Judgment
November 15th, 2018 at 1:36 pmDaffy Duck says:
Whitney,
November 15th, 2018 at 1:48 pmyou’re clearly out of the loop. Check out this link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/02/01/campus-due-process-in-the-courts/?utm_term=.0072787b0d13
Whitney Wilson '90 says:
Definitely not the first or the last time!
November 15th, 2018 at 2:34 pmabl says:
Given this:
This is troubling:
The fact that someone goes on to date his or her rapist doesn’t change the original fact of the rape in question. I’m less familiar with this in the sexual assault context, but in the domestic violence context, it is very common for victims to remain with the assaulter, even after multiple life-threatening assaults. There’s a rich body of psychological research explaining why this is (that I won’t get into here); suffice it to say, the reason isn’t that any domestic assault followed by re-coupling is not actually a domestic assault.
November 15th, 2018 at 2:50 pmSteph says:
Not gonna lie, Dave, you speculating on the romantic life of the new (female) college president is quite disconcerting.
November 15th, 2018 at 4:17 pmDavid Dudley Field '25 says:
Steph:
1) More disconcerting than the College ruining John Doe’s life, and the lives of several other completely innocent students?
2) If it makes you feel better, replace a senior married male faculty member in the above. According to Williams, I am sure that he has been guilty of scores of acts of sexual assault since arriving in Williamstown.
November 15th, 2018 at 4:20 pmDaffy Duck says:
abl:
Read the decision for yourself. You’re cherrypicking facts.
https://kcjohnson.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/brandeis-decision.pdf
November 15th, 2018 at 4:33 pmabl says:
Daffy Duck —
I’m just excerpting from your article. “If every detail of the accuser’s story was taken to be true,” then the accused “had non-consensual sex with [the victim] on the first night of a sexual relationship.” And, if the accused had non-consensual sex (known more commonly as “rape”) with the victim once — irrespective of whether it was followed by lots of consensual sex — then this represents a very serious (and certainly non-frivolous) case.
It’s possible that the article you posted misleadingly represented the accusations in question. I haven’t read the complaint myself. But I don’t think there’s anything unfair about my criticism of the article that you posted. At a very minimum, the article author’s attitude is extremely troubling.
November 15th, 2018 at 4:52 pmJohnny says:
I have read almost everything available so far and all I can picture is a set of railroad tracks. Williams used this poor guy’s ex-girlfriend too in the process. Unreal, this travesty.
November 18th, 2018 at 7:07 amWilliams Ex Pat says:
I am an alum living abroad but even though I am unlikely to be known to the Williams community, I don’t dare use my real identity when speaking of the following. The United States has some very serious issues with how it treats men these days. This case is such a glaring example of rampant misandry in the states. I wish Williams had a clue how disgusting its treatment was of this poor student in this case.
November 18th, 2018 at 7:41 pm