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Great Young People and Old People

From CNN:

President Donald Trump vowed Saturday to sign an executive order requiring colleges and universities to “support free speech” in order to be eligible for federal research dollars.
“If they want our dollars, and we give it to them by the billions, they’ve got to allow people like Hayden and many other great young people and old people to speak,” Trump said in part of his two-hour long speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference in National Harbor, Maryland.
The President did not offer any more details on the order.

1) This seems to be one of the few topics on which Trump agrees with former President Obama. And with EphBlog!

2) Will there be an executive order? I have my doubts. Recall that Trump promised an executive order about birthright citizenship. Nothing happened. Will this promise turn out differently?

3) Biggest secret fan of this proposal? Maud Mandel! Think about it. An executive order would provide Mandel with the perfect cover to do what she wants to do anyway. No muss, no fuss. Any faculty/student complaints can be met with: “The Feds made us do it!”

4) If Trump wants to succeed on this topic, he should involve Ken Marcus ’88, the Assistant Secretary for Civil Rights at the United States Department of Education.

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#1 Comment By John Drew On March 2, 2019 @ 8:24 pm

Wow! This is great news. One of the journalists I have worked with, Stanley Kurtz, has been pushing for this sort of freedom of speech initiative at the state level for years. What a wonderful day for the USA.

The Campus Free-Speech Crisis Is Real, and Clemson’s Got It

#2 Comment By John Drew On March 2, 2019 @ 11:16 pm

The speaker Trump referred to was Hayden Williams. He is a gentle conservative activist who was the victim of a hate crime last week. He was punched in the face at the University of California Berkeley by a former employee and student at the school.

Williams had been recruiting students to help establish a chapter of Turning Point USA. Turning Point USA is a great resources for conservative college students seeking to resist liberal activism and professors on college campuses.

I think it is important to watch this whole report to understand the nature of the threats and violence that impact conservatives on college campuses. It may very well take federal action to protect conservatives from verbal and physical abuse.

Conservative attacked on UC Berkeley campus speaks out

#3 Comment By Papa Smurf On March 3, 2019 @ 12:55 am

Why do you think Mandel supports free speech?

#4 Comment By That Guy On March 3, 2019 @ 4:24 am

Um… Trump “vows” a lot of things, y’all.

#5 Comment By Fendertweed On March 3, 2019 @ 9:25 am

Same #GrifterKing who throws out those engaged in free speech, urges crowds to rough them up, etc.,

Some heavy cranial-anal impaction at work…

#6 Comment By That Guy On March 3, 2019 @ 9:55 am

Y’all. Y’ALL. Here’s ssome coverage of the college/university free speech “crisis.” Many folks here will critique Vox as a source, so insofar as you can, consider it a summary of the actual scholarly work being done, and if you prefer, go straight to the source.

#7 Comment By PTC On March 3, 2019 @ 10:30 am

When I saw log mural covered I on thought was, “this is the kind of crap my income and local property taxes supports?”

I am not joking.

#8 Comment By Not PTC On March 3, 2019 @ 11:02 am

PTC, you don’t pay property taxes to Williams. :)

#9 Comment By PTC On March 3, 2019 @ 11:41 am

I pay property taxes to a town where an imbalance of support is required in terms of police, fire, water, and other municipals supported by my tax dollars because Williams does not pay property taxes on the vast amount of real property it owns.

New fire truck, hence new fire station, new police station, all in part because of requirements to meet non taxed Williams real property requirements.

My property taxes have doubled since 2010, in part because of the demands placed on the municipality due to Williams Colleges’ expansion- which creates municipal expenses- by law.

#10 Comment By Future Williams Dad On March 3, 2019 @ 12:01 pm


Hearing this incredible news makes me think a lot about my two-year-old son, who strongly supports President Trump and conservative principles of free speech. Unfortunately, he’s been living with my wife and her boyfriend for the past week, so I haven’t had a chance to see him and celebrate this monumental victory for supporters of campus free speech like ourselves (my wife left me two weeks ago because I was so outraged with Maud’s handling of the Love/Green controversy that I couldn’t focus on her).

#11 Comment By Not PTC On March 3, 2019 @ 12:25 pm

PTC, think of it as an investment in the future!

#12 Comment By PTC On March 3, 2019 @ 2:37 pm

Not me- ha!

I’ll make sure to turn the lights out when I GTFOOH. Hehehe.

#13 Comment By That Guy On March 3, 2019 @ 4:40 pm

One thing that pisses me off is if even one single cent of my taxes goes to fund something that does not directly benefit me in a tangible way every single day. I cannot stand that.

#14 Comment By John Drew On March 4, 2019 @ 2:14 am

I think it is worth revisiting how Charles Murray was treated as a speaker at Middlebury College in 2017. It is especially worth reading Murray’s own account of the event, particularly the moments in which student protesters mobbed him and his entourage and injured political science professor Allison Stanger. Here’s his account of what it was like to walk out into an angry mob of protesters:

I had expected that they would shout expletives at us but no more. So I was nonplussed when I realized that a big man with a sign was standing right in front of us and wasn’t going to let us pass. I instinctively thought, we’ll go around him. But that wasn’t possible. We’d just get blocked by the others who were joining him. So we walked straight into him, one of our security guys pushed him aside, and that’s the way it went from then on: Allison and Bill each holding one of my elbows, the three of us plowing ahead, the security guys clearing our way, and lots of pushing and shoving from all sides.

I didn’t see it happen, but someone grabbed Allison’s hair just as someone else shoved her from another direction, damaging muscles, tendons, and fascia in her neck. I was stumbling because of the shoving. If it hadn’t been for Allison and Bill keeping hold of me and the security guards pulling people off me, I would have been pushed to the ground. That much is sure. What would have happened after that I don’t know, but I do recall thinking that being on the ground was a really bad idea, and I should try really hard to avoid that. Unlike Allison, I wasn’t actually hurt at all.

The three of us got to the car, with the security guards keeping protesters away while we closed and locked the doors. Then we found that the evening wasn’t over. So many protesters surrounded the car, banging on the sides and the windows and rocking the car, climbing onto the hood, that Bill had to inch forward lest he run over them. At the time, I wouldn’t have objected. Bill must have a longer time horizon than I do.

Unfortunately, the injuries suffered by Allison Stanger were worse than originally thought. She suffered whiplash and a concussion. Seven months later, she was still suffering the consequences of the attack. Meanwhile, the Middlebury students who terrorized her and Dr. Murray got off easily. Middlebury College disciplined 74 students mostly by placing them on probation. No one was charged criminally.

It is very easy for the campus left to de-humanize its victims. If they are going to insist that expressing, or even platforming, opposing points of view are acts of violence, then we will see this sort of real violence stay at its present dangerous level. For Murray’s full comments, see the article below.

Reflections on the revolution in Middlebury

#15 Comment By anon On March 4, 2019 @ 7:48 am


Anyone care to comment as to whether or not the president has the authority to make such an order legally binding?

“Adopt public school free speech rules, or have public money withdrawn.”

My guess is that he probably does through his agency authority. I could be dead wrong…

#16 Comment By fendertweed On March 4, 2019 @ 9:48 am

Lol … @John Drew & Charles Murray —> the perfect couple atop your wedding cake (imagined grievance Dept.)!

#17 Comment By fendertweed On March 4, 2019 @ 9:50 am


The President has no authority to appropriate federal funds. That’s Congress’s role according to the Constitution.

#18 Comment By anon On March 4, 2019 @ 12:01 pm

fendertweed- but under the design agencies have large amounts of authority to set rules on hey they use appropriated funds as well as punish organizations under their charter for not following those that the agencies set.

For example, the department of education can (and has) changed title IX and other rules that involve funding. Congress can always challenge this authority by specifically passing a law that opposes a particular use of this agency authority, but even then the executive power is only at “its lowest ebb”- not void.

Federal agencies under executive authority take actions that influence spending, rules, regulations etc all the time.

#19 Comment By anon On March 4, 2019 @ 12:11 pm

#20 Comment By A True Patriot On March 6, 2019 @ 4:41 pm

Mr Dudley ’25:

What pleasant news! Perhaps now Williams College will finally allow me to speak about True Patriotism, Fire Safety, and good ol’ Mr. Jesus. Well done, Mr. President!

I only wonder if these “socialists” (don’t like the flag) will now try to speak! I believe they may be ‘sneaky’ and even say some nasty things about Our President and the bald eagle (beautiful). Maybe we need the communists to have a little bit more freedom-from-speech — I will gladly sing the anthem at them (they will all be confused into silence because I am sure they do not even know how it goes!!)

PS: Dear Mr. “Future Williams Dad”, you are not getting Vanessa back as she loves me and my Patriot Attire. We will take your son, though — I would love another Trump Man in the house!

A True Patriot (USA USA)

#21 Comment By fendertweed On March 7, 2019 @ 8:47 am

Anon … right up to a point … but only up to a point. None of that negates Constitutional limits on appropriations and spending power.

#22 Comment By anon On March 7, 2019 @ 10:12 am

Fender- My point is that it is not as far fetched as you are making it. The executive has a lot of legal and monetary authority through his agencies.

You can make an intelligible principle argument, but those usually fail. Congress has delegated large amounts of authority to the Department of Education.

#23 Comment By anon On March 7, 2019 @ 10:21 am

How the courts would view withholding money (rather than spending it) from private colleges for failure to adhere to agency policy is done often. It is one way the department punishes schools for not maintaining compliance with all kinds of standards.